Ordinarily I delve into Nickelodeon because I’m surfing on a lazy Sunday, and lacking substance in the form of Grim Adventures or a nice block of Mythbusters I find myself tossing about in the world of SpongeBob. (Ben 10 is tolerable, but only just barely, and I wonder how long it’ll take for Ben/Gwen hentai to hit the net, assuming it hasn’t already.*)
So this last weekend I stumbled across an almost Beatlesish song called “Crazy Car”, which I admit has a good hook and is nicely rendered, and learned it’s a preliminary to a new show on Nick that is debuting in late January, something they call The Naked Brothers Band.
Which would be cute, but the brothers in question are aged eleven and eight. The first two names that came to my mind were Michael Jackson and Mark Foley. (As in “NBB was directed by … and produced by…” respectively.) Naked Brothers Band … Is it really possible that no one at Nickelodeon thought, Hey, maybe we could call the show anything else at all?
A once-over of the Web page tells me not much, but I can infer a great deal; this is basically a warmed-over Partridge Family for tweens. It seems inane and insipid, but geared toward doing what parents want least to have happen: Giving moisties to their ten-year-old daughters.**
Look, I’m a liberal; I have been all my adult life, and I expect to be until I die. But that does not mean I like the idea of any for-profit, commercial network making money off of turning tween life into some bizarre, quasi-valid pursuit of boyfriends, dating or making out. No kid at ten needs to be talking about his or her relationship. Until the kid gives up Legos or Barbie, sex is too soon.***
Even the term “tween” was invented by marketing dimwits, many of them possibly the ones behind the selling of “NBB”. 2007 is going to be a year of intense and deeply-wrought chaos for parents of kids aged nine to twelve. And a lot of it is likely to be because of this “NBB” thing, I suspect.
Several years ago I wrote a book called The Beasts of Delphos. It’s a coming-of-age novel that starts when its protagonist, Barris, as about twelve years of age, and it follows his exploits into his late teens. In that novel, I describe — obliquely, and in depth, but not pornographic depth — Barris’s life, including his sex life. He has a male lover, and is deeply involved in intimacy with several women as well; and yet, I’m disturbed by the NBB idea.
Not because it relaxes sexual mores; and not because it may or may not change how we see tweens — though, given the general discomfort in the US about how interested preteens seem to be in adult behavior, this should be a little disturbing to at least some parents. It’s because of the intent of one versus that of the other. Beasts of Delphos was written by an adult, for adults; it was and is not intended to be consumed by children. NBB, on the other hand, is all about being by, for and targeted at kids who don’t even have hair enough to know what sex actually is.
Problem?
If an extreme liberal like me is lifting a warning flag, well yeah, maybe.
Parents, here’s my advice to you: Channel-block Nickelodeon and buy a Wii, right now. You’ll be vastly, profoundly glad you did in less than eighteen months when you compare notes with people who didn’t heed this warning.
And buy condoms, just in case. (They might even have the NBB logo on them. I bet they glow and are covered in polka dots.) Not for your own kids; they’re to give to the parents who didn’t read this note, when they ask if their kids can have a NBB Slumber Party at your house.
No, no — I’m not seriously suggesting that this vapid kids’ cable thing is going to destroy your ethical hold on your children. But even the liberal I am, even after reviewing the Nick site that seems to be at great pains to emphasize the “strong moral center” of the show, I’ve been watching the material that Nick is cranking out to promote their new series — and I, liberal, atheist, marginal hedonist — I am made a little uneasy by it.
That should worry the hell out of almost anyone.
====
* Didn’t Google, don’t want to know, so don’t post links.
** And, to be sure, stimulating the occasional ten-year-old boy.
*** And even then, it’s probably too soon; it’s up to the parents to help their children decide, not some cell-phone-in-the-ear marketroid sales tard.
5:02 on January 8th, 2007
My wife and I were very concerned with the title of this seemingly innocent group as well. I had to cut Nickelodeon out when my 8 year old son rushed into my room exclaiming,”The Naked Brothers Band rocks!”
I too am very liberal and don’t thunk that it is the intent of Nickelodeon to taint the minds of our kids, but sometimes they use nudity or genderbending as a way to get a cheap laugh (See: Spongebob). I hope that they will do better in the future because planting words in the mind of kids does shape their personality in some way.
14:00 on January 10th, 2007
Nat and Alex are sooooooooooooooooooooo cute
16:16 on January 15th, 2007
I recently saw a video of alex (naked brothers band drummer) putting his face all over a womans breasts on there tour buss. please whatch it at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g1Q5wKXCdc
the first thing i thought when i saw this video is “where the heck are these kids’ parents and why do they alow this?”
these kids were were exposed to wayyyy too much wayyy too soon, to the point of perversion.
I think these kids are unfit for nickelodeon and almost anyone else for that matter. If any kids see this video it will begin to seem normal to them.
I would really like to see these kids off the air soon before they corrupt the minds of our youth today.
16:44 on January 15th, 2007
That video is pretty creepy, yeah. Given the amount of shrieking that went on just a few years ago over Janet Jackson’s nipple, you’d expect this kind of immersive cleft-gazing to be simply out of the question — and yet, there it is.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with kids showing a healthy interest in questions about sex, sexuality or others’ bodies (as well as their own), but that sort of stuff (1) happens more or less spontaneously, not as a result of some kind of goofy, not-funny staged piece promoting an insipid TV program; and (2) really should be up to the child’s family to introduce and discuss, not the TV.
The more I see of this show the less I like it, and that’s weird because I definitely am not a prude.
UPDATE: There’s another posting by me on the video here.
17:40 on January 15th, 2007
…………………..I don’t even think that’s the same person in that video…, and I loove the Naked Brothers Band…. You don’t know what you’re talking about, and I don’t want them off the air, either. How old are you any may, Warren? Well, I totally disagree with almost everything you all said. yah, I think they’re cute, too!!
17:45 on January 15th, 2007
The show does not have anything to do with sex in any way. I know because I have looked at everything about it, and Nat & Alex had called themselves the Naked Brothers Band, because they were in preschool, so they were naked besides …, and they’re brothers. Ya said you didn’t google it, so you don’t know, and it’s easy to see that there is nothing wrong with this show.
9:10 on January 16th, 2007
S.M.C.: I’m probably old enough to be your father; that’s all you really need to know. My age has little to do with the validity (or lack thereof) of my opinions.
Stephen: Sorry, but I have to disagree. The image of a very preteen boy practically bra-diving does, in fact, have to do with sex.
There’s nothing in particular for anyone here to be ashamed about — it’s Nickelodeon I’m calling out for putting on the show in the format they’ve obviously chosen to present it in. It’s the programming department at Nick — actually, everyone who gave this show a green — that should be ashamed of themselves.
9:16 on January 16th, 2007
[...] Comment threads have an interesting life of their own; for instance last month I posted on Nickelodeon’s forthcoming Naked Brothers Band, and in the comments was passed along a link to this YouTube video. It’s a promo piece for the show and includes an interesting turn of events. Below is a still image from that video. [...]
14:26 on January 16th, 2007
also whatch this movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_iNSg-G3t8
these kids are pervs.
14:49 on January 16th, 2007
Dunno about pervs, but the dialog that’s being fed to them will probably make parents cringe. “Does ‘alienate’ mean ’squeeze boobies’?” is not exactly the kind of thing I would want my own child walking around and repeating because he thought it was “cute”.
If the press comments here are to be believed, furthermore, this thing was written and directed by the kids’ mother — and the scene with the eight-year-old nuzzling the blonde might be even more creepy, since it seems possible that the woman is in fact the kid’s aunt.
19:28 on January 16th, 2007
I am really angry, now. First, all this sex crap is not on Nick. Kids wouldn’t find this on Nick. I’m not as young as ya probably think I am. or, I don’t know. (…) I don’t care about these stupid videos, and I don’t want them off the air, no matter what you say or think.
8:17 on January 17th, 2007
The evidence on YouTube is there and undeniable, S.M.C. If you have an alternative explanation for the bra-diving and “boobie” jokes, let’s hear it.
17:57 on January 18th, 2007
uh whats the whole Naked part in there band! Tell me they dont go on stage nud
12:16 on January 19th, 2007
They keep their clothes on; the name is unfortunate and surely meant to titillate, but there’s no actual Michael Jackson-style naked little kids running around.
15:44 on January 19th, 2007
I hope those little prepubescent kids get shot and die. They think they are so cool and that girls love them, I am seriously considering killing them. (Mostly the drummer)
If they could actually play descent music i wouldnt mind that they were insanely cocky; however, seeing as the drummer sucks, the lead singer sounds like he just got punched in the balls (which he probably doesnt have lol) …and the rest i dont care too much about. Also, if you actually claim to like them try listening to music for a change, REAL music! and the two above me that said they thought they were cute…you need to get outside more.
Seeing as i probably wont return to this site u can email me at masterjimuno@comcast.net if you have anything to say
21:16 on January 19th, 2007
The above comment sort of tests me as a site admin. I decided to let it go because I don’t believe in censorship, but I’d advise “Nate” that comments such as “I am seriously considering killing them” are probably not wise. IPs are logged, and in any case, threats — plausible or not — are generally not a good idea. Besides, that was a technical violation of my posting policies — but I tend to err on caution’s side when issues of self-expression are afoot, and usually let things through that other admins might not like, even veiled threats against myself.
This isn’t a post that was meant to foment hatred of the NBB show, and certainly isn’t about wanting any parties involved dead. That sort of “kill them all” extremism is what causes airplanes to fly into buildings, and years-long pointless wars to be enacted in lands that are basically harmless.
So I let the post through mostly to serve as an object lesson in the dangers of over-the-top rhetoric. In a strange way it’s not that different from the gushing, wild praise the NBB show has garnered — it’s an extreme emotional reaction to something that, overall, isn’t very important, a sort of flash in the cultural American pan.
However, I will say now that anyone else who posts similar comments will find himself moderated out of the discussion. Love or hate NBB, they are boys, they are kids, and they are the inheritors of the democracy and free speech of Jefferson and Lincoln. They deserve to die as much as any other kid who ever wanted to be a rock star — which is to say, not at all.
So hate them as much as you want, but don’t talk about killing anyone here. We’ve had a bellyful of that crap already in the last half decade from the likes of Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bush, Kim, Ahmadinejad and so on; and we damned sure don’t need any more.
19:31 on January 20th, 2007
sorry,i was just in an angry mood, I wont do that again and im not gonna kill anyone…i was just a bit pissed, thats all.
8:48 on January 21st, 2007
why are they called the naked brothers band?
9:56 on January 21st, 2007
u guys are so hot
9:57 on January 21st, 2007
hi mine a big fan it wood be really great to meat u if u let me
12:42 on January 21st, 2007
Wow! I think I’ll have to agree with Stephen. If you didn’t take the time to learn a little behond the name of the show, it’s a bit strange to make such stonge objection to it. My two boys, (incedently 7and 10, the same age differance as Alex and Nat), have seen the promos for the show and wanted to watch. So I went online and looked them up. Their songs are goofy and the music elementry, but harmless enough, it seems to me. It got my 7 year old singing and wanting to join the band, when he never showed an interest in music before.
The sad thing about the original piece and many of the resopnces is that it shows just how far we have come as a society that just the name ‘Naked Brothers Band’ brings to mind something sorid or salatious instead of the innocent state of undress that young children often prefer. What is the difference between this and hauling out the “bathtime” photos of our kids everytime an unsuspecting friend or family member stops by, (”OH, isn’t he adorable?”? And here is a bit of food for thought, the “baby sitter”, (and I cannot stress enough that this is a movie you are seeing), appears to have a large tatoo on her right bosom. Is it possible the kid is looking at that, and not her clevage at all?
There is so much in this world to protect our children from, and I know because it’s a full time job for me. But this is not something to worry about, this is just silly.
12:46 on January 21st, 2007
My 8 year old daughter asked me the other day if she could go see NBB is concert if they came to our area. I’m like “WHAT - those annoying little kids on Nick? I don’t think they are really a band” she insisted they are - so here I am, googling, and finding LOTS of things I am not liking. My husband and I have decided NBB will not be on the list of shows she can watch until we can watch it oursleves a few times. I had already found myself not liking them much from the lyrics of songs like Motormouth. Written by an 11 year old huh… pretty sexist for being so young. The face in boobs video & girls drool videos I watched made me feel ill. I am an elementary school educator and find kids are growing up way way too fast these days. Kids this age should not be thinking about these adult themes… I try my hardest to keep my daughter as young as possible as long as possible… youth only happens once, why is the world trying to steal it away from these kids by giving them the means to ‘grow up’ so fast.
8:20 on January 22nd, 2007
Stacy:
It’s not the name of the show that has me concerned — clearly that was put in place to draw attention, and it’s working. But there are other things going on there that are a little disturbing. That a kid the age of Alex would be so obsessed with “boobies” is a bit over the top, don’t you think?
Incidentally, Stephen and S.M.C. are the same person.
Again, not necessarily a problem — but as Jammit pointed out, “Motormouth” is rather sexist, and when you have songs with lyrics such as “take my hand, be my woman” coming from a prepubescent, the realism of the sentiments is questionable at best.
It’s not the show’s title — it’s that preteens are being cast as behaving more or less exactly as adults, with the probable exceptions of sex and drugs. But the former is undeniably hinted at in scenes such as the bus sequence.
I don’t believe so, and I think it’s a bit disingenuous to suggest it. He’s looking with obvious (faked) delight directly down her cleavage — the camera cuts to a close-up to emphasize the fact — and this is the same boy who refers at least twice to “squeezing boobies” in another conversation.
That it’s a movie makes it even more out-of-line. The child is being manipulated into behaving in this fashion. Or would you suggest it was also OK for him to grope a pair because it was only a movie?
At what point does “it’s only a movie” stop being an excuse for putting out garbage? Particularly since this movie was intended to emulate a documentary?
21:20 on January 22nd, 2007
[...] I never intended my initial comment on Nick’s show to garner the reaction it did, but I think what capped it all was this. [...]
21:21 on January 22nd, 2007
I never intended my initial comment on Nick’s show to garner the reaction it did, but I think what capped it all was this.
== begin ==
Name: A B | E-mail: c@d.com
1I love your Band so mutch I HVE MY OWN BAND IT’S CALLED DOOM CALL ME MABE MY BAND CAN HAVE YOU OVER AT MY HOUSE SOME TIME AND TEACH US SOME MOVES PPPPPPPPPPLLLLLLLLLLLLZZZZZZZZZZZ i’D LOVE THAT i’M THE BAND LEADER CALL ME AT [PHONE NUMBER DELETED] I’D LOVE FOR YOU TO CALL ME I’M 10 i LIVE IN CALIFORNIA IN [CITY DELETED] AT [ADDRESS DELETED]. PS. THIS IS MY MOTHERS EMAIL
== end ==
Per my moderation policy, I keep comments from first-time posters in a pool that locks them out until I approve them; in this case I’m glad I did, because the boy who wrote the above had, without guile and in all innocence, put absolutely discernible biometric information about himself into his message.
A ten-year-old put his home address and phone number into a message, intended to be read by the folks involved in NBB, online for everyone to see. He basically said, Hey, molesters, here’s where I live, come on by and take me away.
The phone number, I think, is genuine, and when I Googlemapped the address, it gave a legitimate location, satellite-mapped to an actual tree-shrouded house in suburban California.
Listen, kids who are fans of the show: I understand you like it, and want to get in touch with Nat and Alex; but this website is not the way to do it. I don’t know the boys, and am not in any way associated with them. What you post here is probably never going to be read by any of them.
But listen closer. When you try to get in touch with them by putting your name, address and phone number online, you’re not really reaching Nat & Alex at all. What you’re actually doing is telling the world: I’m a young kid, and I live here, and here is how to get in touch with me — and if anyone who happens to be a child molester sees this information, you can be totally guaranteed that he’ll use it to call you, find you and rape you.
The phone will ring and you’ll hear something like this: “Hi, [your name]? I saw you like the NBB a lot and have a band yourself. Well, we’d really like to get togethger with you on this. So when can we meet?” And he’ll pick a time when your folks aren’t home, or pick a place near your house, and then he’ll meet you — and what you meet won’t be a NBB representative. He’ll be a pervert.
If you want to talk to Nat and Alex, that’s fine. But you can’t do it here. You have to do it with the NBB fansite at Nick.
And even then, NEVER tell anyone where you live, or what your phone number is, on the internet.
If you love NBB, that’s OK. But here is not the place to meet or talk to them. Wait until they have a concert or something near you, and never tell anyone online where you live or what your phone number is.
Because the things that live under your bed or in your closet are make-believe; the nightmares you have of being lost and cold and alone, away from your mom and dad and forgotten in the dark, are terrible; but there are real monsters in the world, and they would love to know things like your home address and phone number, and they will do things to you that are far too horrible for you to imagine.
And those monsters don’t care about how scared you are, how bad it is, or how much you wish you could see home again.
If they can find you, they will hurt you, and they just don’t care about anything.
So NEVER put your home address or phone number on the internet.
17:34 on January 25th, 2007
Ok,Well first of all these kids are ok.I mean there name is really the silver bolders and you can`t keep your kids from growing up forever!I mean you got to let them do what they want I have reviewed this show about 20 times to see what there songs are.I know that there songs are weird and they don`t make sence but you need to let them be free and do what they want to do.I also agree with you Stephen and Warren you got to look away from what the name of the show is and just start thinking of what there like.Just think positve and do more reserch on what they do and let your kids watch the show.Thats what I would do.My friends kids are always wanting to just watch it and watch it and I just said ok just let them watch it I mean i have heard of it before and i have done a lot of research on them.So trust me just watch it more and see what you like about it and look away from the name and remember the show is just called the naked brothers band not like there band and they are a band.They wouldn`t be on tv doing shows if there weren`t a band i mean come on.I have found out that this kid named Nat Wolff has the nickname girl magnet but still not that many kids now that that is his nickname.I also found out that they are really popular everywere.So I just have to say that I work with these things every day.Just take my advice and watch it more and do more research and if you want more research then go to this place right here http://www.thenakedbrothersband.com/index.html trust me and try it!
18:22 on January 25th, 2007
That group is really annoying, they can’t sing at all and not cute. But they are just brats anyway and the father is a loser. I saw the scene were the kids were looking on the stupid babysitters chest. It’s not playing innocent by the way.
16:18 on January 26th, 2007
Trace, while I appreciate your enthusiasm, what you wrote feels like it was pasted directly out of a paper you were writing for a class assignment.
You say you’ve done “research” on NBB; well, so have I — and it’s pretty clear from what you posted here that your research didn’t happen to include reading or responding to what I or others have written.
I don’t expect a point-for-point rebuttal, but a blanket denial of the viability of my (and others’) concerns does not constitute an argument; it’s the rhetorical equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and saying “Nahh nahh, I can’t hear you.”
While I understand that kids grow up eventually, the fact is that NBB appears to contain material which is entirely unsuitable for preteen children, and it is absolutely not the right of a television cable network to decide for parents when kids are old enough to be obsessing on womens’ breasts.
20:18 on January 26th, 2007
These kids think they’re ALL THAT! They’re stupid! I think the name they chose was too inappropriate. I typed in the band name on the computer and it brought up a bunch of porno. I think they sing bad anyway. I mean, they’re too young to even be rock stars, they don’t know what they’re doing.
21:23 on January 26th, 2007
ok now lets get a few things strait.
1. people need to calm down about the name. even i can tell you its just something so kids made up that stupid and cute at the same time. i know you have seen bands throughout the country.
2.the lyrics of the songs. people come on take “my hand and be my woman” is not even that bad compared to what you can here on radio stations today even if you do have you 11 and 12 year olds listening to the happy peppy staion. I am 2 years older than nat and i heard worse stuff out of my classmates.
3. if you REALLY did your reserch then you would not that they are editing the movie before they put it on nick. so most likely alexes comments wont be there. i mean there are even diffrent people on the comercials that in the movie
20:24 on January 27th, 2007
Ok I just watched the naked brothers band movie tonight. Its funny and cute and they dont talk about sex! they explain the reason for the band name too! preschoolers that just happened to be naked and brothers decided to make a band! I will honestly watch this show every time it comes on! And Alex is cute! that’s how it is people!
23:10 on January 27th, 2007
ok well first of all you people who are saying the name is inapropiate for little kids you must by a little kid! you cant grow up and get over the fact its the naked brothers band wooh big woop its not like all the kids that watch the show r gonna act like them i mean really come on theyre just little kids ok let them have there fun ok i personally think they’re adorable! but u no everyone has there oppininons ok well uim 11 ok and i feel as if im smarter than all the people who are like these kids are so stupid well if u dont like them no one cares ok so get over it!! i mean the show the suite life of zack and cody has stupid things in it geeze well you know what u people are just plain out rude ok u no theres a lot worse music and shows and videos ok well i dont care what anyone else thinks sbout this ok well if anyone has somethin to add be my guest ok
2:49 on January 28th, 2007
does anyone have something else to say or was i clear yea im 11 but us kids r growin up fast now and if u keep us a baby we wont be able to face the real world so what do u choose to get us ready 4 the real world or keep us 2 forever?? and yea thats what i mean i have lots of responsibilties ok i have a new baby sister and all u have to no is the bands name was made when nat was 4 and his brother 2 so what do u expect from lil kids they all go through a stage where they want to be a firefighter or a ROCKSTAR or an actor/actress. and u dont ruin your childs dream do u?? actually u probably think its cute i mean its this tiny little kid why do u want to stop them ok yes i soeak my mind and i can be brat at times but this is how i let people know ok so just reply ok well idk i have freedom because im not treated like a 2 yr old im treated like how i should ok so its your desion im just sayin cut ur kids some slack i should no i am one ok…………….
2:51 on January 28th, 2007
and 4 my 3rd message warron guy lay off ok let kids be kids!!!! u were one and u wanted to be yourself so let everyone else be themselves please and thank yous ok alright babye guyz talk tomorrow ok bye!!
8:26 on January 28th, 2007
I LOVE NAT WOLFF! He is SO cute and Alex is a normal kid! He is funny and sweet and cute and that is just being normal! Nothing is wrong with them! They named themselves the Naked Brothers Band because it is catchy and adorable! All you ppl are insane not liking them! They are famous and you are not so stop being jelous! Nat is a wonderful songwriter! I, for one love his lyrics and love the fact that he and alex is not afraid to sing or say what they think! So HAH!
12:50 on January 28th, 2007
Yeah good job Courtney…they DO edit the clips before they are on Nick; however it doesnt mean that those things arent still being done. Even if people’s children never do see the clip of him staring at her breasts or him making the “squeezing boobies” joke the same kids that did that are being put on TV and being watched by kids. Im not a parent, im still fairly young so i dont have a large concern for children watching but i do realize that some parents DO care a lot and that if that is the case they shouldnt let the NBB be watched.
The bottom line is that the NBB should be cancelled because they are bad at music, and bad for young viewers’ minds.
Also Courtney, before you accuse us of not doing our “reserch” why dont you go look at a dictionary and figure out how to spell that
14:11 on January 28th, 2007
ok i no i talk a lot 4 an 11 yr old but to the jammit person u should just let your child have some fun theyre only a kid once and if thats one little thing you dont agree with oh well ok and i just think its retarded and all u people here who r like “i think they suck” “theyre retarded” or “they dont no what theyre doing” “i hate them” well you know what no one cares of gives a flyin crap ok…….. and u should try to find more info on them ok!!! so now im pissed at everyone whos retarded and u no what i dont care at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so grow up have some fun if u dont like them dont come here and start pissin people off like me ok i think theyre adorable little kids who want to have fun well oh well i probably wont ever come on here again ok well by to the haters and hello to all my peeps! ok peace
18:38 on January 28th, 2007
it’s a name! why are you all making such a big deal out of it? they aren’t actually naked, so who cares? they are only kids and I’m sure they are not trying to be “sexist” when they sing their songs.
8:11 on January 29th, 2007
The show that aired had those little boys saying, “I want to see your boobies!” I was horrified. For Nick to push it that much and have all these little girls interested (like my two who are 6 and 7) and then to degrade females like that!? I was going to say “women” but these little girls aren’t even that yet. It’s the type of environment you never want you kid in and Nick just brought it to my living room. I don’t know about anyone else but I want my girls to understand their beauty, both inside and out, not be concerned about their “boobies”, not at this age.
9:06 on January 29th, 2007
OMG, give me a break!! This show is harmless!
14:32 on January 29th, 2007
Okay, I’ve read through all of your comments as well as many others. I watched the show on Nick, looked it up on Wikipedia and Google, and even watched all those wonderful YouTube videos. I’m 18 years old, I used to teach karate to kids (4-12) and I am proud to say I am yet not a parent and don’t plan on becoming one anytime soon. BUT, here is my opinion for whatever it’s worth:
1) You need to know your kids. If they’re still in the mentality level of “I like Teletubbiees” then … maybe you should put this show on hold for a few more years (assuming it lasts a few more years).
Personally, if I was a parent I wouldn’t mind the show THAT much. The scene of Alex smelling/licking her breasts - yea I think that’s completely inappropriate - that’s something you’d expect to see on comedy central. But all the other stuff (the boobie jokes and even the “girls suck, boys rule” song) I don’t mind that at all. Is it pushing the boundary a little bit? Yes, definitely - but as long as your kid has a grasp of reality and realizes it’s a joke and is not the way you should act - then I see no problem in letting him/her watch this show. Some kids have weak minds, some kids don’t - that’s something you have to decide.
2) The problem here is that some parents are much more conservative than others - some don’t even let their kids watch Nickelodeon. With that said, I feel Nick is definitely taking a chance here by introducing material that has rarely been sene on their station before. To think “Hey! Arnold” got controversy just over using the word “crap”, and “Angry Beavers” got controversy over saying “shut up”, I think this is definitely pushing the envelope. So while I personally may not object, I feel Nickelodeon is walking on thin ice with this…and should of thought twice before putting this on the air.
3) As for the name of the band: The name, is a name - is a name. Nothing more, nothing less. As long as I don’t see any blurred out 10-year-old genitals while I’m watching the show, I really could care less (And no, I would not like to see non-blurred out 10-year-old genitals either).
Does anyone agree or object to anything I’ve just said?
18:51 on January 29th, 2007
People who are posting here, who are NOT even old enough to know what ‘boobies’ are, really have no right saying if the Naked Brothers Band is a good or bad influence on the children in our society. Or to be more fair, I should say your opinion means nothing.
To the real parents and concerned adults out there, who care enough about how their children will grow up, really need be steer clear from the Naked Brothers Band.
Sure, you can give credit that these children have put effort to create a band, and are actually trying to become something in this messed up world we live in, but it is apsolutley disgusting how they are sending horrible messages to our children. (Also to add, these children wouldn’t of gotten anywhere without their mother.)
The people who do like NBB, don’t dare say how they do not show disgusting things on T.V, because it frankly, does not matter. Because sooner or later, the children who do really enjoy this so called ‘band’ will want to become like them, and they will look into the background of these kids, and learn things they never knew. They’ll want to copy their ‘actions’ because they’ll be taught that it is ‘cool.’ They’ll want to be veiwed as cool. They’ll think “Hey NBB are cool, so I’ll follow in their steps and become immature little perverts too.” Don’t think children will not see the disgusting things this band does, because they will. How do you think I saw the videos of one of the boys sticking his nose down a woman’s shirt, or his fantasys of squeezing breasts. Kids will see it also, and find it to be cool.
It is horrible how today’s corrupted world, is now influencing our children. If it weren’t for these raper’s out there with their “pimps” and “ho’s” and other corrupted people, the NBB would probably never act the way they are acting. Wearing tatoos, trying to catch female attention when they aren’t even mature enough to know what ‘boobies’ are.
But I do feel the name has nothing to do with influence. Kids (right now) aren’t aware with the worlds sexuality ‘issues’, I guess you could say. So kids really wouldn’t understand that the words “Naked Brothers”, to most people, means two naked boys, thusly turning heads to the word “gay”.
To Mike M.’s comment:
To think “Hey! Arnold” got controversy just over using the word “crap”, and “Angry Beavers” got controversy over saying “shut up”, I think this is definitely pushing the envelope. So while I personally may not object, I feel Nickelodeon is walking on thin ice with this…and should of thought twice before putting this on the air.
- I agree strongly to this. Nickelodeon lately, have been stepping deeper and deeper onto thin ice, and sooner or later it’ll crack. It could be possibly that they’re trying to attract more veiwers (Teenagers), so they put on crude humor, because sadly, teenagers enjoy things like that. (Don’t say its a phase they go through. The only phase teens used to have was being curious, not the things they do today.) Heck, Nickelodean want to attrack adults too, so they also put this humor in their shows, but for a children’s show, it is unexceptable.
Lastly, to close my post, I feel that the people who DO want to flame the NBB, your just making the cause look worse by saying “I want to kill the NBB” or things like “They suck, cancel them” or “these kids are perverts.” Atleast elaborate on why you think they suck, or why they are perverts, and why you haven’t gone to a therapist for your urge to kill someone.
12:40 on January 30th, 2007
Hmm…I agree with your last comment - that making threats and calling 10 yr olds perverts isn’t really productive.
But I think you might be over-reacting over the boobie comments. I see it more as immature rather than inappropriate. It’s obviously designed to get a quick laugh and that’s it. But unfortunately, while some kids will hear that and say “Oh, hah! That’s funny (or cute)” and leave it at that - others (the weak minded) will say “Oh wow, look! A new word I can use!” - which will result in many pissed off parents when they hear their 5 yr old running around the house screaming “I wanna squeeze boobies!”
So if this was a perfect utopia and only the mature 9-12 yr olds (the demographic it’s targeted for) watched this show, then it wouldn’t be an issue. But because some parents use the TV as a babysitter, I think Nick should kinda tone down the content - or at least get rid of the repetetive boobie jokes. They’re trying to make Nat look like the mature older brother (”Alex, that’s not appropriate”) but I think they’ve just turned Alex into a role model in the process.
Another thing that hasen’t been much considered is the danger it poses to kids who try to meet this band online. Although it’s something no one could have really predicted, it really only takes one pedophile to make a website claiming to have connections to NBB and … we got a lot of kids at risk. Hell, even on this site a 10 yr old gave out his full name, number, and address in an attempt to meet the band (see posts above). I think Nickelodeon should consider airing warnings inbetween commercial breaks telling kids not to give out personal info online - or better yet, just say “NBB has absolutely no interest in meeting you.”
You know…just something to keep in mind.
13:05 on January 30th, 2007
Danielle & Mike —
Yeah, the objection I’ve had from the beginning is not to the name of the show per se, which is clearly just a marketing ploy intended to get attention; it’s the show’s content.
There is not an eight-year-old in the universe who is naturally fixated on breasts to the degree that Alex is depicted as being, which means he is being turned into not simply a silly figure but a sort of misogynistic role model after whom many young boys might model their own behavior in later years.
The hypermaturation of Nat is equally inappropriate. Children are simply not adults and should not be portrayed a being “deep” or in a situation wherein they are responsible for making adult decisions. (Except in extraordinary circumstances such as emergencies; but absolutely not as a daily aspect of their lives.) That is why our society doesn’t permit them to drink, drive, marry or vote.
As for the online dangers — that was the most surprising and disturbing element of all in this entire NBB situation. I tattled on the kid who tried to get in touch with the band through my site, letting his mother know what was going on. I don’t think she was too pleased — and it is fortunate (as I pointed out in my letter to Nick) that this kid’s information didn’t end up in the wrong hands, which it certainly could have done.
To no small degree the mania surrounding NBB is similar to what preceded the Beatles’ arrival in the US; and to some degree my (and others’) reaction probably seems a bit like that of the stodgy square-cut men who got themselves into a lather over the teens’ responses to the Beatles.
However, NBB on a good day isn’t anywhere near as good as the Beatles on their worst day; their songs simply aren’t that well done; the show itself is a cynically-poised marketing engine dotted with poor acting and worse scriptwriting; and the plotline seems to legitimize — even promote — extremely adult-like behavior in prepubescent children.
Those are significant differences, and they lift those of us who object to the show out of the ranks of geezerhood and into the realm of rational, sensible critics.
As a side note, I have deliberately rejected about a dozen posts, most of them one-liners, opining about how “cute” and/or “hot” Nat and/or Alex are. They don’t add substance to the discussion. While I normally don’t censor, that kind of insipid brain-dead fluff simply doesn’t belong here, and in a discussion already well-represented by the “Nat is soooooooooooooooooooooo cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute!” crowd, I don’t see any reason to pass variations on the theme.
17:54 on January 30th, 2007
Mike M. - you say that children just use words like ‘boobies’ because its ‘funny’ to say, and other things along those lines. I understand that many kids just say it for fun because they really do not understand what they are, and their functions, etc. But Alex is “Strongly” fixated with them, unlike those kids who talk about it for fun. Most kids normaly wouldn’t shove their head into a woman’s shirt, nuzzling breasts, and asking adult women if they have boyfriends. So basically, i’m just rewritting exactly what Warren here is saying.
Also you say most weak-minded children would go around copying Alex’s behaviour, or any other bad behaviour, but honestly, the way this world is shaping up to be, soon every child will have “weak minds.”
Now about NBB’s songs, people say their songs suck, poorly written, etc, well alot of their songs are poorly written to attract much, much younger veiwers. Its not like a 7 year old will come out of nowhere criticizing what grammar to use, and what meanings to put in the songs. I highly doubt NBB became a band to fulfill the older generation’s tastes in music. But they still shouldn’t try, nor ever try putting out bad images to younger veiwers.
“However, NBB on a good day isn’t anywhere near as good as the Beatles on their worst day; their songs simply aren’t that well done; the show itself is a cynically-poised marketing engine dotted with poor acting and worse scriptwriting; and the plotline seems to legitimize — even promote — extremely adult-like behavior in prepubescent children.” - Warren
Like I said, to children, they don’t care about acting and scriptwriting, they just care about what kids their age care about. Crazy cars, no? But over time, kids do reflect on what they watch, hear, and have been taught, and if NBB teaches adult like themes, presto, there goes half this generation’s minds.
Lastly, its horrible that young veiwers haven’t learned the lesson to never put out information about themselves. “I think Nickelodeon should consider airing warnings inbetween commercial breaks telling kids not to give out personal info online - or better yet, just say “NBB has absolutely no interest in meeting you.”” - Mike M. Heck yes, Nickelodean should put out these warnings, not only about NBB, but in general. If Nick cuts off programing for 2 hours so children will go out and play, and air messages like “Eat breakfast”, things like that, then they should put more safety and health suggestions out.
17:55 on January 30th, 2007
Well after watching Nick again, it appears this show is shown only on “TEENick” which is from I think 8-9pm? Not to say that debunks all the arguments already made but … it’s something to keep in mind.
But anyway, based on what I’ve read, it seems people dislike the show for several reasons:
1) The kids try to act older than they are (talking about relationships, etc)
2) There are some repepetive jokes, usually in regard to sex that are not at all subtle
3) The band itself isn’t that talented
4) It’s an overall bad influence on today’s youth
With that said, I think you need to consider one more thing. Since Nickelodeon is so widely watched throughout the US, they have one of two choices when it comes to their programming:
1) They can play it extra safe and show nothing but SpongeBob and Dora the Explorer - which while eliminating controversy would probably end up warping any child’s mind far worse than this show ever will.
2) Try to use best judgement based on the social norms of today’s society and the evaulative input given by parents (such as yourselves).
I must say, going back to when I was a kid, I never really objected to anything that Nick put on TV - if anything, I just thought some of the jokes were too silly for my age. But, being in the position that they are in, Nick has to decide whether or not something is ‘appropriate enough’ to broadcast on their network. 9 times out of 10 they make a decision that the majority of parents agree with - while sometimes (possibly with ‘this show’), their decision isn’t that great.
I think we have to realize that being execs at Nick is probably just as hard as a politician handling questions at a press conference - so while I think this show is a little bit ballsy for the network, I’m not quite ready to all-out criticize Nickelodeon for poisoning today’s youth.
If they remove the unnecessary boobie jokes, have the kids act their age, and possibly play more talented music, I really will have 0 objections to this show. You have to realize if one TV show on one network is enough to warp your child’s sense of reality, then you too have failed as a parent.
18:34 on January 30th, 2007
I don’t recall seeing or saying that only one show on one network is enough to warp a child’s mind, theres many. Alot of Spongebob’s jokes are horrible. There’s a episode where Patrick becomes smart, and as one of the sterotypical ‘nerds’, Patrick acted stuck up, snoody, trying to be better then all, and so he lost all of his friends. Thusly at the end he chooses to be an idiot in order to have friends, then being smart and having none. If Patrick really was smart, he’d realise that his actions are causing issues in his social-life so he needs to cool down. He CAN have friends, and be smart and succsesful at the same time. He dosen’t have to be an idiot and have idiotic friends and live under a rock his whole life.
Soo basically, Nick can only show Dora, apparently. Wow, dull.
Your right in saying you should let your children be exposed to things little by little, because no matter what, they will in life. But I feel that perverted things, and taking the path down wrong roads, is just pushing the line.
When I was young, I too didn’t object anything in Nick. Heck I still feel young at heart
thats why I time to time still watch cartoon’s, for a laugh here in there. Back then I didn’t understand what things ment, but today I do. Now you’ll say something like “Exactly, kids today don’t really understand it either”, that is 50% true, just because they don’t know what it means dosen’t mean theyll find out.
“If they remove the unnecessary boobie jokes, have the kids act their age, and possibly play more talented music, I really will have 0 objections to this show. ” - Yes, the show would have around no objections if it corrects its errors early.
Lastly, if I’ve portrayed myself as a parent in anyway, I have to inform that no, I am not a parent. Nor do I think I will become one, but It dosen’t mean I don’t have certain veiws on what children watch these days.
20:18 on January 30th, 2007
Alright, well I apologize for putting words in your mouth. I’ve watched enough of the O’Reilly Factor to know how annoying that can be.
In regards to SpongeBob, please don’t get started on all the morals and stuff lol. I firmly believe parents exist to bring up their kids, while cartoons exist to entertain. I can equally argue that the episode was designed to teach children not to discriminate against their mentally retarded peers - it’s really whatever you make of it. Hell, some parents think Harry Potter worships the devil…maybe he does, who knows.
Let me see what else you wrote…
” “Exactly, kids today don’t really understand it either”, that is 50% true, just because they don’t know what it means dosen’t mean theyll find out. ”
True - which is why as long as the adult references are subtle enough, I don’t see it as a problem. You see, there’s a relationship (that I made up just now) between a child’s adult knowledge and what he/she sees on TV - and the child’s adult knowledge usually exceeds what is shown on the kids TV stations.
For example, if Disney hints at the idea of a kid getting in trouble for having porn - it’s safe to assume a lot of the preteens watching have already looked at porn and/or [expletive for masturbation] to it.
Furthermore, if it shows a boy and girl intimately make out and feel each other up - it’s safe to assume alot of the kids have already done that, or are going to give it a try some time soon after watching.
It’s…kinda like the same problem with the speed limit laws.
So I think if we keep the adult content in kid’s shows 10% less than what they probably know, then we’ll be doing just fine. Because let’s face it - whatever they don’t know they’re gonna find out anyway from Google and their peers - especially once when they get into Middle School.
And btw - I wasn’t referring to you as a parent, but I used the word “parents” since those are the people who are probably most concerned about this
Oh and I do agree with you that we should bring up kids ‘gradually’ - but I don’t think we should just single out the media. If I’m smart enough to see through the BS, then I see no reason why we can’t teach children to do the same.
21:00 on January 30th, 2007
to miss Danielle i believe that you should mind yourself because that show is on teenick and so i let my child watch it shes olmost 12 and i dont see the big deal and i saw what you wrote about u people need to give it a break i mean a name is a name a word is a word and a show is a show what in the world is the big deal i just had another child and im gonna wait for her to be watching those kinda shows but i dont go complaining about all im trying to say is let kids be kids and have theyre fun u can only be a kid once and when your an adult for the rest of your life and thats when you do what you would like to do. just let your kid ask before watching or doing something they think that you may not like otherwise if you dont trust them they may go behind your back and do something they will regret for the reast of there lives so maybe just maybe you should trust them a little more like watch a show called the naked brothers band its not cuss words and stuff its little kid music and fun
1:22 on January 31st, 2007
so hey to that danielle person i dont care what u say about or to my daughter but if u wanna say something you might as well say it to me ok because its a name {naked brothers band} at first i was a little suspious but i watched the show and now i realized its not that bad i just had another child and im going top hold off on her watching those shows but they are on teenick. now if there was bad words in it i could understand not to but theyre little kids let them have fun you were one and now let them be one!!
7:59 on January 31st, 2007
Pathetic.
Hey, “Ally’s Mom Janet”, here’s how your posts read:
“Dear Principle, please exqueeze my dotter’s absince frum skool todday. She was not ditching! She had a tempacher of 120 degreez and wuz hoam sick. Sinned, My Mom.”
In twenty or so years, after you’ve grown up and had a couple of kids of your own, you’ll understand just how sad your little diatribes were.
13:43 on January 31st, 2007
What the heck big deal….. its just a show and its what kids talk about when adults don’t get in their way its funny and shows children they need to drink milk(don’t ask me cause it’s in the movie) i am 11 years old (the same age as nat) AND NO THEY DO NOT GO ON STAGE NUDE THEY JUST CALLED THEMSELVES THAT BECAUSE THEY STARTED THEIR BAND WHEN NAT WAS 4 AND WHEN ALEX WAS 1… so that kind of explains it and i think nat is cute because he can sing write songs and play the piano and this movie teaches kids to follow their dreams…. so if you have nothing good to say don’t say it at all i love this show and again i am 11 no name of the band will hold me back for liking them if parents took the time to watch a show with their kids they wouldn’t be soo worried…
♥♥Pia (Nat’s next girlfriend) lolzz
14:02 on January 31st, 2007
Don’t even make fun of Ally i am her age and she is right LEAVE YOUR KIDS ALONE no matter what YOU do they will grow up the way they WANT too not the way you want them to cause once they reach that age when they move out YOU WONT be there to tell them “DON’t watch that naked brothers band” and theres nothing wrong with them that thing about the boobs big deal he is 6 or 7 years old so cut him some slack don’t you DARE ANYBODY make fun of them if you don’t want your chidlren to watch it don’t but don’t ruin it for all the “right minded” parents who let them watch the naked brothers band…… there are millions and billions of parents who do let their children watch the naked brothers band (including my parents) my CATHOLIC SCHOOL even likes them my parents didn’t even need to do any research because if you have a life and watch tv you would know that there is NOTHING WRONG and don’t get to saying i am too young i am responsible and everything just like that ally girl so leave her and me and the naked brothers band alone…. Oh and to that person who was “looking” for that video with alex and his tutor screw you! what are you doing looking for everything wrong about them if i level it out it is a good show…. so don’t even try putting it out of air cause there will be more than a billion kids rebelling to that…. (and i know your thinking wow she knows big words) 11 years old in your days and 11 years old now is not the same if you want to go back in time go for yourslef but don’t mess up our time…
♥♥Pia
16:27 on January 31st, 2007
Wow…that was very insightful Pia.
Well I’m not gonna patronize you for being young (I used to be a kid too … infact I miss it), but I will say this:
You said “if you have a life and watch tv you would know that there is NOTHING WRONG” - um … last time I checked, ppl who watch TV all day don’t really have a life.
lol but thats not the point - heres the thing: If you’re mature enough to know it’s ‘not good’ to let boys shove their face in your breasts (which I hope are not developed yet) then .. good for you. If the boys are mature enough to know that screaming I want boobies is immature - and the only reason its cute is because Alex is a ‘little little’ kid…then good for them.
But not all kids are as smart as you… or … smart at all. So…letting kids watch this show who arent able to “think for themselves” is just as bad as letting retarded children watch SpongeBob - it’s only gonna make them stupidter - yes you heard me - “stupidter” lol.
You get what I’m saying? The show’s not bad so long as you don’t worship these kids and copy EVERYTHING they do. Do you honestly think Michael Jackson fans go around touching boys just because he said it’s okay? Not at all (I hope) - they like him for his music but realize it’s not a smart idea to stick your hand down a kid’s pants. Wow…that was a very messed up analogy.
16:30 on January 31st, 2007
Correction: “I like boobies” or “I wanna squeeze boobies” - obviously Alex doesnt “want” boobies because well…he’s a boy.
7:47 on February 1st, 2007
If he’s got a latent case of gender dysmorphia, anything’s possible.
18:33 on February 1st, 2007
Well first of all Pia-Allison, “once they reach that age when they move out YOU WONT be there to tell them “DON’t watch that naked brothers band””, frankly when they’re old enough to make decisions for themselves, I’m more then sure 1. NNB’s won’t even been airing anymore. 2. They wouldn’t want to watch the show in the first place 3. Once they move out, they’re more then mature enough to know what to watch and what not to watch, without a parent watching over them.
“Oh and to that person who was “looking” for that video with alex and his tutor screw you!” - You don’t have to be looking for dirt on the band, to stumble on this video(s). When I came across this video, I was researching the band, and it happend to pop-up.
“so don’t even try putting it out of air cause there will be more than a billion kids rebelling to that…” - It dosen’t matter if its one child to a billion children, it frankly isn’t up to them, its up to the parents.
“You said “if you have a life and watch tv you would know that there is NOTHING WRONG” - um … last time I checked, ppl who watch TV all day don’t really have a life.” Yes, have to agree with you there, Mike M.
Last, but not least, if children do have weak minds, they’ll copy off of T.V shows. If they are strong minded, as Mike says, then yes, they’ll know to brush it off their shoulder and get on with their lives, but kids who are in the middle, which a lot of kids are around the young ages, can get influences in any way.
11:26 on February 3rd, 2007
im a guy and I like ther music iam 12 and im not a kid who is obcesed w/ them but i woud be gratful 2 b in ther band i can sing and i go 2 a scool of the arts and besides if ur in 7th grade and remember the 4&5graders u know how kids act so everyone just stop if the nbb heard this they woud pobably cry so stop because ur just bulling some 7 and 10 yr olds & its probably very hard bieng famous at any lv & ur all makin it harder & the reason im defending them is because we kids stick together
13:52 on February 3rd, 2007
*Got a promblem…Solve it Cant stand me…Sit down!! Cant face me…Turn around!! Thnk im trippn…then tie my shoes* Do ya get what i’m saying?? well its true and to Pia you are very cool!! and thats true you were a kid once i mean for all the people on here who knows how long ago that was though but im a kid now im gonna have my fun and i dont care about what any of you haters have to say! i bet you people who dont let your kids watch nbb think your all frickin that and stuff but no one here wants to know or care about it and you know what to the bit….. i mean person who wrote “if you have a life and watch tv you would know that there is NOTHING WRONG *{i agree thx pia for that}* - “um … last time I checked, ppl who watch TV all day don’t really have a life.” ok well first of all were kids we cant watch tv all day like you people here i have lots and lots of time and ocasionally i come on here and tell my mind i am a bitchy little 11 yr old ok well get it through your heads im not your best friend im your WORST ENEMY to the haterz
Mike M wrote “But not all kids are as smart as you… or … smart at all.” Every single kid is smart in there own way even if they are mentally ill everyone is smart except maybe you because you just insulted me and everyone that is a child or a human being so that was a pretty smart thing to do!!!!!! i saw there movie last night and it was cute ok!!!! i liked it you people on here {except the people who think its a good band} need to get off your lazy butt and not look it up on the computer do your research by watching the show those are two way different things you cant always live off the computer there is more life out there than ya think! obviously and hey warren that was very rude you dont see me goin and talk crap bout people like that i mean i dont sink that low not even close i just speak my mind but you went too far well to everyone ill talk maybe later
8:49 on February 4th, 2007
Gee Warren, you must lead a pretty exciting life. People like you crack me up. Why waste time expressing your worthless opinions online when you could be rounding up some of your tree-huggin’,latte drinkin’ “friends” and picketing outside Nickelodeon Headquarters. Have you watched any kids tv lately? They all contain something a little suspect. It doesn’t make it ok to watch, but that’s just the way it is and it’s up to us as parents to choose what our kids watch. You’re probably the idiot who started all that crap about SpongeBob being a homosexual and that he’s pure evil. So while your kids are locked in their closets memorizing the New Testament maybe you could think about loosening up a bit. Just think, you probably would have never even found this website if you hadn’t Googled “naked brothers” while surfing for your adult sites.
12:37 on February 4th, 2007
“But not all kids are as smart as you… or … smart at all. So…letting kids watch this show who arent able to “think for themselves”
Aern’t there a ton of shows out there much, much worse then this one? if you have a T.V in your house are your kids not going to be exposed to these kinds of things?
If you did a good job raising your kids, which I presume a lot of you have since you’re all very concerened with this new show, which I actually see as harmless (The boobie antics and the soda-holic content is “Cute” at best.)Then what do you have to worry about? What are you afraid is going to happen to your kids?
As for the child posting his name/ number/ adress, I am sure Nysncs or Brittney Spear’s (or any pop sensation for that matter) has a mail box full of the same crap.
Kids acting like adults? seen it many times before and it gets a cheap laugh everytime…
14:23 on February 4th, 2007
Hmm…well, you say Danielle that the show is encouraging kids to grow up faster, right? I actually think the opposite - to an extent.
In regards to the kids’ over-dramatized “rock star life”, and them frequently talking about relationships, chicks, and hot cars - then yes, I agree with you on that.
But at the same time, these kids still laugh at poop jokes and the word “boobies” so … I think it’s just embarassing … for all of them.
I mean you look at Alex saying “I like boobies” and you say to yourself “omg, he is only 6 yrs old! He shouldn’t be thinking about that!” while I say “wtf? These kids are still laughing at the word boobies, why don’t they grow up?”
So in regards to the effect this show has on kids, I think it’s playing tug o’ war with itself - it has kids talking about relationships but then they laugh at the word boobies.
So…at this point, I really don’t care about the appropriateness of it, it’s just the fact that … it’s really painful to watch. God help my 10 yr old cousin becomes like these kids.
14:28 on February 4th, 2007
OH wait! I think i just had an epiphany
“it has kids talking about relationships but then they laugh at the word boobies.”
That may very well be the non-technical definition of a tween/preteen! They’re no longer a kid anymore but they’re not yet a teenager - they’re kinda stuck in the middle right before they hit adolescance - soooooo …. maybe this show actually has a reason for the immature jokes and sexual innuendo?
Now isn’t that food for thought
14:42 on February 4th, 2007
IM 10 i think that the nbb is ok. an they r all talented for there age. this show is a comedy show so i bet most of this is acting. it is ok for kids that age to start “liking” people of the other gender. those videos were probley made from some perv who is bored an wants to give the nbb a bad name all the stuff your kids see they will go through them selfs so this will help prepare them. SO all partens let your kids whatch it
20:04 on February 4th, 2007
It’s not a bad show. Sure sometimes Alex says stuff about girls, but it’s not a big deal at all! Obviously these are some talented kids. If you’re going to make stupid comments about a KIDS show then that’s pretty low. Plus Nat is 11 not 10 and Rosalina (Allie)is about 13. A lot of kids there age are dating now (I would know because I’m around that age). Maybe you should rethink about what you say when you join us in the 21st century. Everybody who has kids should let them watch this show. And why are you making fun of kids?! haha your cool. You talk about how there so not grown up and I’m thinking the same way about you. So here’s some advice.
SHUT THE HELL UP!
9:04 on February 5th, 2007
Tom: To accuse me of being an “idiot” who forces kids to read the Bible is to be completely, abysmally unaware of every other post on this site; it seems you didn’t even bother to read the post to which you were attempting a response.
Brittany: You are a guest here, and I expect you to behave accordingly. Disagree with commenters or posts as much as you want, but do not tell others to shut the hell up.
Ally: In your earlier posts you pretended to be an adult woman. I correctly pointed out that you were spoofing. That’s not rude; it’s exposing a fact. You’re welcome to comment, but if you’re going to pretend to be something you obviously are not, you have to expect to get called out on it. I’m sorry your feelings were hurt.
15:41 on February 5th, 2007
“Hmm…well, you say Danielle that the show is encouraging kids to grow up faster, right? I actually think the opposite - to an extent.”
I dont see anywhere in my comment where I said those words, nor trying to express it.
“Plus Nat is 11 not 10 and Rosalina (Allie)is about 13. A lot of kids there age are dating now (I would know because I’m around that age).”
I’m aware children date at this age, and I’m also aware that it’s not untill your late 20’s or early 30’s until you start actually making right decisions.
“this show is a comedy show so i bet most of this is acting.”
In parents eyes, its not comedy to shove your face into women’s breasts and try to date someone 10 years older then you.
Also, what’s the point of these people stating their age on this? By saying you are anything under the age of around 18, your basically saying “Hey I’ll post here, but it dosen’t really matter because I’m not even old enough to make right decisions for myself.”
16:16 on February 5th, 2007
Danielle– You’re a beast women!
You’re shredding a ten year old and calling everyone else immature? hypocrisy, much?
That is completely ridiculous to say that anyone who’s under 18 shouldn’t/ couldn’t possibly have an opinion that matters or procure a statement of any significance.
Is that how you treat your kids? Saying that they’re worthless, “they don’t have a voice” or an opinion that matters. It’s ok to protect your children too an EXTENT, but god damn women let them breathe a little bit.
Besides I would check yourself before calling others childish, as of right now I’m haveing a hard time distinguishing who is a kid in these posts and who is not (yours included).
See who you have on your side now Warren? the super conservative over-protective mothers, now you really got to question yourself when they start flocking to your side…
16:48 on February 5th, 2007
DayTripper, if you pay attention to previous posts, I stated that I am not a parent.
To you, it may seem that me saying that people who are under 18 shouldn’t post, seems mean. Feel free to let that bother you as much as you want. It’s not my problem that you let the truth bother you.
Why do you think there are laws that say, you can’t drive untill your the age of 18. No voting untill 18. No drinking until your 21. They have these laws because people over the age of 18, make better and smarted decisions then children. It’s scientific proof that adults make better decisions. Its one of the most known facts out there. If the world was ran by children making decisions, then the world would be total chaos. If you don’t know this by now, then go back to school.
And if I did have children, i’d tell them exactly what I was taught. I’d teach my children that, Yes your opinions mean nothing until you make a living by yourself. If you live in a house where you get free food, and a free roof over your head, then you will obey whoever is giving you these things. You are able to have your opinions, but they won’t count until you know exactly what your doing.
Sure, I think there are things that parent’s should let their children be exposed to, but I won’t state my opnions because I’m not a parent yet. So I don’t fully grasp the total veiws of parenthood, but I spend time with my young nephews and neices and brothers and sisters, and I’m motherly towards them, so to this topic, I have the right to state anything.
16:52 on February 5th, 2007
Oops. Sorry I forgot to mention something before I hit Submit.
“See who you have on your side now Warren? the super conservative over-protective mothers, now you really got to question yourself when they start flocking to your side…”
The only people I see one Warren’s side, and the more intellegent, and concerned adults. So go ahead, ranting that Warren dosen’t have any good back-up. If I were you, I’d be concerned about MY back-up. All I see on your side are 10 year olds saying how cute the boys in that band are.
18:08 on February 5th, 2007
I think that people should not only say things that are only opinion.
Like, if you like the way they look then they can do any thing they want.
Or, you don’t like their music then everything about them is offensive or obscene, and nobody should watch them or they should die or some other very unpleasent experience.
I think people should say what is true and fact.
It has been said many times that ‘Naked Brothers Band’ is just a name and why that is their name. People are more concerned with the thinbgs they’re doing and the content of the show, so people can stop repeatedly saying it over and again.
And name-calling, trash-talking, whatever else you want to call it, of other people here, just because you don’t agree with their opinions, should not be happening. It is not like you would have any idea if any of the things that you say about each other is at all true, and none of it has anything to do with what is meant to be talked about here.
About the fact that children are sending messages to NBB with personal information, trying to have the band contact them… any actor, singer, or any other kind of celebrity will probably have the same kind of thing, so I don’t think that NBB is introducing a new problem. And I am not saying that it is not important that this type of thing doesn’t happen.
I believe that Danielle’s idea that the opinions of people under the age of eighteen are not important, and that they cannot make decisions on their own, is completely, well… wrong.
Think about when you are in high school and you aer deciding what kind of career you want and what college to go to. Or what about their opinions about what food they like or don’t like, or what sports they like or might want to participate in.
So I’m not just referring to people who watch NBB. I am referring to all of them in general.
19:04 on February 5th, 2007
To Nate and others who think that NBB is ‘bad at music’. That is your opinion, and not everyone has the same opinion as you. There are many people who would say that they really like there music.
So I’m saying that the show (or any other show, for that matter) shouldn’t be cancelled just because YOU don’t like the music.
I know that there are other reasons that people think NBB should be cancelled for other reasons. And Nate had said ‘the NBB should be cancelled because they are bad at music, and bad for young viewers’ minds’, so he wasn’t one saying that bad music was the only reason, but I think that because it is only his opinion therefore it, to me, isn’t a ‘reason’, at all.
23:10 on February 5th, 2007
my sumbit button isnt working, what gives?
23:10 on February 5th, 2007
This is what I have been saying… Stephen= Fo’ Prez.
Yes, saying people who are under 18 shouldn’t post because they have nothing worthy to say is “mean,” but it is also untrue. [See Stephen's post.]– Since I believe he said it best.
Oh yes! People over 18 are soooo much more responsible then people younger, if we had kids voting then they might elect a Movie Star into a high-ranking political position!! Or a bumbling baboon into the presidency. Oh wait… George Bush… Arnold Schwarzenegger. Huh?
It makes so much more sense too exclude the younger generation from the voting process, seeing as there the ones who will be impacted most by the decision these “responsible adult’s” are making…
The drinking age in most European countries is around 14 and yet they don’t suffer as much substance abuse as we do here in America. They don’t have the same kind of “get drunk till you can’t feel feelings” mentality that we have in America, not because the younger people are irresponsible.
Oh and I’m so glad you’re willing to promote the perpetual ideology of ‘Self-Worthlessness,’ because we all know that it’s very adherent to a Child’s Self-esteem that they be told that their opinions don’t count, or matter the slightest. I’m sure you will make a great mother Danielle…
4:42 on February 6th, 2007
“Think about when you are in high school and you aer deciding what kind of career you want and what college to go to. Or what about their opinions about what food they like or don’t like, or what sports they like or might want to participate in.”
In most cases, when it comes to high school students choosing their careers, usally they are influenced by other family members. In today’s society, most high school students weren’t raised right and end up droping out of school, getting pregnant at the age of 15, not having college even cross their minds. It’s not the matter if high school students ARE able to make a decision on what they want to do in the future, it’s the matter if they choose a correct decision or not.
Apparently none of you are understanding where I’m trying to go with this.
“I think people should say what is true and fact.”
I agree with that.
“Oh yes! People over 18 are soooo much more responsible then people younger, if we had kids voting then they might elect a Movie Star into a high-ranking political position!! Or a bumbling baboon into the presidency. Oh wait… George Bush… Arnold Schwarzenegger. Huh?”
Yeah right. I’m against George Bush, but if you look on the other side of it, George Bush and his administration are pretty smart. They were smart enough to scare everyone in America into voting for them. They were smart enough to keep scaring America, so they stay in the White House. Yes it is true, the majority of American’s are idiots, and it’s hard to believe that these idiots, are rasing their children to be idiots as well.
DayTripper, if your not able to see that most American’s are dumbasses, and what will happen when all those dumbasses raise children, then you must be blind.
“The drinking age in most European countries is around 14 and yet they don’t suffer as much substance abuse as we do here in America.”
Here’s yet another example of what I’m saying. American’s are IDIOTS. Europeans have been taught CORRECTLY. Are you catching my drift yet?
I’m not going to continue sitting here, trying my best to make you people understand the way this country is, and the truth of it all.
“Oh and I’m so glad you’re willing to promote the perpetual ideology of ‘Self-Worthlessness,’ because we all know that it’s very adherent to a Child’s Self-esteem that they be told that their opinions don’t count, or matter the slightest.”
People find the best at what they were raised to, and I was raised to this. Sure it seems hard and mean, but it makes a person better when they are pushed hard to overcome things like this. But of course, everyone today makes their children spoiled as hell and then the children are raised like Bush was raised. But I have to agree, once in a great while, a smart child is born. All you have to hope is that their parent’s won’t corrupt them.
“my sumbit button isnt working, what gives?”
Either your IP address was rejected or it was just site lag.
“therefore it, to me, isn’t a ‘reason’, at all.”
Anything can be considered a reason if you have logical back-up for it.
“I’m sure you will make a great mother Danielle…”
Yeah I’m pretty sure too.
4:51 on February 6th, 2007
You all are out of your minds… have you even watched this show? It’s based on Nat and Alex’s actual band called The Naked Brothers band, Nickelodian didn’t make the title to turn on 10 year olds. The show is a comedy and has nothing to do with sex. If Picard were here he’d be sighing up a storm at you all.
8:58 on February 6th, 2007
I’m not reading a sense from Danielle that kids’ opinions don’t matter; but they can — and should — be overruled by adults, particularly when acting in the kids’ interests. I think that’s the core of her outlook on this subject, t