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	<title>Comments on: Dumping Pandagon</title>
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		<title>by: ?Dlrow Orrazzib at The Indigestible</title>
		<link>http://indigestible.nightwares.com/2008/04/18/dumping-pandagon/#comment-4959</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Full disclosure: When I pulled Pandagon off my blogroll and RSS feed, it was mostly because Amanda had supported one too many ad hominem attacks against James Lileks and his Bleat. It&#8217;s one thing for reasonable persons to disagree; it&#8217;s another for someone to say, in reply to any argument crafted in general goodwill, &#8220;Well, you&#8217;re a poopy head.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Full disclosure: When I pulled Pandagon off my blogroll and RSS feed, it was mostly because Amanda had supported one too many ad hominem attacks against James Lileks and his Bleat. It&#8217;s one thing for reasonable persons to disagree; it&#8217;s another for someone to say, in reply to any argument crafted in general goodwill, &#8220;Well, you&#8217;re a poopy head.&#8221; [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Warren</title>
		<link>http://indigestible.nightwares.com/2008/04/18/dumping-pandagon/#comment-4562</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 07:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;strong&gt;Ben: &lt;/strong&gt;

I wasn't reading Pandagon in the days of Jesse and Ezra, so I didn't have a comparison.

After reading the comments on the site you linked, I found it most striking how closely they resemble the current atmosphere at Pandagon -- and that post is three years old.

So, apparently, are some people. Sigh.

Thanks for the validation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Ben: </strong></p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t reading Pandagon in the days of Jesse and Ezra, so I didn&#8217;t have a comparison.</p>
<p>After reading the comments on the site you linked, I found it most striking how closely they resemble the current atmosphere at Pandagon &#8212; and that post is three years old.</p>
<p>So, apparently, are some people. Sigh.</p>
<p>Thanks for the validation.
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		<title>by: Ben Culture</title>
		<link>http://indigestible.nightwares.com/2008/04/18/dumping-pandagon/#comment-4544</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 10:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;"Additionally, the commenters on Pandagon often seem to have extremely low tolerance for those who don’t line up precisely with their views, which is ironic in any population that styles itself liberal."&lt;/i&gt;

Which is one way of putting it.  Another way of putting it is "They're fucking psychotic, I want my Mommy, I think I just peed myself a little".  Which is how I would put it.

A lot of people had the sense to ditch Pandagon when Jesse and Ezra decided to call it a day, and I wish I'd been one of them.  It really &lt;i&gt;hasn't&lt;/i&gt; been Pandagon ever since.

http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/ezraklein_archive?month=10&#38;year=2005&#38;base_name=pandagon_gone

Five or six people speaking up about why they don't like Amanda (has something to do with her writing, the way she writes, the way she talks to people on her blog, the way she communicates, etc.)  Then Amanda shows up and says "But what you &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; hate about me is, I have a vagina."  Then it all goes to hell, and the really nasty misogynists come out of the woodwork (though I'm sure &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; of them must be Amanda supporters, or Amanda herself, trying to make the critics look bad by association -- see, this what it was ALL ABOUT in the first place! -- i.e., you don't like Amanda because of her writing, this guy doesn't like Amanda because he despises women, therefore people who don't like Amanda are misogynists.)  That's what Amanda's done throughout her whole blogging career, best I can tell -- avoided the growth that comes as a result of accurate criticism by denouncing the critics as misogynists.  

That's the lead blogger, and the commenters are those who fit with her best, the others having been weeded out over the years.  So it's no wonder you don't care to mix among them.


Ben</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Additionally, the commenters on Pandagon often seem to have extremely low tolerance for those who don’t line up precisely with their views, which is ironic in any population that styles itself liberal.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Which is one way of putting it.  Another way of putting it is &#8220;They&#8217;re fucking psychotic, I want my Mommy, I think I just peed myself a little&#8221;.  Which is how I would put it.</p>
<p>A lot of people had the sense to ditch Pandagon when Jesse and Ezra decided to call it a day, and I wish I&#8217;d been one of them.  It really <i>hasn&#8217;t</i> been Pandagon ever since.</p>
<p><a href='http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/ezraklein_archive?month=10&amp;year=2005&amp;base_name=pandagon_gone' rel='nofollow'>http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/ezraklein_archive?month=10&amp;year=2005&amp;base_name=pandagon_gone</a></p>
<p>Five or six people speaking up about why they don&#8217;t like Amanda (has something to do with her writing, the way she writes, the way she talks to people on her blog, the way she communicates, etc.)  Then Amanda shows up and says &#8220;But what you <i>really</i> hate about me is, I have a vagina.&#8221;  Then it all goes to hell, and the really nasty misogynists come out of the woodwork (though I&#8217;m sure <i>some</i> of them must be Amanda supporters, or Amanda herself, trying to make the critics look bad by association &#8212; see, this what it was ALL ABOUT in the first place! &#8212; i.e., you don&#8217;t like Amanda because of her writing, this guy doesn&#8217;t like Amanda because he despises women, therefore people who don&#8217;t like Amanda are misogynists.)  That&#8217;s what Amanda&#8217;s done throughout her whole blogging career, best I can tell &#8212; avoided the growth that comes as a result of accurate criticism by denouncing the critics as misogynists.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the lead blogger, and the commenters are those who fit with her best, the others having been weeded out over the years.  So it&#8217;s no wonder you don&#8217;t care to mix among them.</p>
<p>Ben
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